BPA trading room Q&A: April 1, 2015
In general nowadays, how much stress does trading bring into your life? And have you gotten less stressed in general as you developed to depend on yourself?
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I love trading. Any time you take a trade, there’s at least some kind of a tingle going on. But I’m really peaceful all day long. I feel like I know every tick of the day what the market is doing, what the market’s trying to do. I don’t feel stressful, but I can tell you, 25 years ago, 15 years ago I used to just be so tied up in knots all day long, “Oh, I thought – it’s doing that. I thought it was going to do the opposite. It should have done the opposite. Oh, I took a trade, and I really need this trade to work. I lost three in a row. I can’t afford to keep losing like this.” I used to get really connected to the market emotionally as if my feelings could make the market do what I wanted it to do. Over time I just began to trust what’s going on. I feel really, really peaceful when I’m trading and very, very comfortable.
I feel like I know what the market’s doing at all times, and I feel like I’m always thinking it can go up, it can go down; I’m always thinking in terms of probability; I’m always thinking in terms of how far they’ll go. But it took a long time to get this way. I’m a very uptight, intense person. I don’t like that about me, but that’s who I am. I’m 63 years old; I’m not going to change, I just accept it. However, when I’m trading, for whatever reason, somewhere along the line I just became really peaceful, so if I see some crazy move, I say, “Oh, look – look at that it hasn’t done that in a couple of months.” I just don’t get upset about anything. It’s really good. It makes trading a lot more fun.
I just remember how stressed out I used to get, how upset I used to be, and how I used to feel like if I could generate enough feelings I could make the market do something, but, I’ve come to accept the reality. I’m competing against the French government, the Chinese government, JPMorgan. They have thousands of times more capital to trade than I have, so I can put my entire net worth on a trade and I might move the market a tick. I am really insignificant and therefore I can generate all the feelings that I want, it’s not going to change things.
And the other thing is – just come to accept 10 percent of the day, the market looks like this, a breakout. But 90 percent of the day, the market looks like this, and during that 10 percent of the day if you’re going to trade, you can always short. During this 90 percent of the day, you can short or buy at any time and make money if you manage your trade correctly. You can sell the 12 low and look what happened – 33 came right back down to that level. 68 eventually got down to that level. So you can sell when the market is going up; you can buy when the market’s going down. It doesn’t matter. You can buy when it’s going up; you can buy when it’s going down. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is management. So 90 percent of the day, I just come to accept that the market is going to pretty much go sideways, and if you manage your trades correctly, even if you do something dumb, you still can get out break even if you’re really careful about what you’re doing and if you don’t do something dumb.
It’s easy to do something dumb. I’ve done millions of dumb things over my trading career. But in general you just trust that the market is going to make sense and it’s not going to do crazy things. And they make it sound on television as if the market’s doing crazy things. It’s not doing crazy things, it’s just doing logical things; it’s just constantly probing support and resistance. Sometimes it goes higher or lower than what you thought it was going to do, but it’s simply probing support and resistance. The sell-off on the open today – I did not think was going to sell off that much, but it did. It reversed almost all of it later in the day.
I hope that makes sense. However stressed you feel, I was at least that stressed 20 years ago, 25 years ago, 28 years ago, whatever. I don’t remember the last time I felt stress trading, but it went away. And now I’m really peaceful. I look forward to the market opening every day and I love being here.
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What a re-assuring article! I liked to hear your voice as it’s calm tone re-inforced your statements and gave me hope that stress will not always pervade my trading.
Nice article! Like what you’re saying about trusting the market. I strive to relax and enjoy the long periods of waiting nowadays, instead of feeling anxious…
Thanks to your work I’m profitable and well on the way to a professional trading career! Keep it coming!!